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Does FTWIZ support F Correlatives on Universe |
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jthompson333
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 9:04am |
We are converting from an Ultimate Plus (PICK) on HP-UX system to Universe on AIX.
On our Ultimate system, F correlative dictionary items worked with FTWIZ. On the Universe system, they seem to not work. Blank data is put into a delimited text file using FTWIZ. I have downloaded and installed the latest version of the host transfer programs. I installed them into a PICK flavored account on the Universe system called ACCUTERM. I ran FTSETUP and updated the account I was working with. Is this as designed? If so, what should we convert these to? Its a bit hard to find good sources of documentation on I types, etc. (at least for me). We just happen to have old F correlative docs laying around, and my supervisor is use to them. |
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SChurch
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I can't answer your FTWIZ question, but a good reference for I-descriptors is Chapter 5 of the Universe System Description Manual (sysdesc.pdf in the Universe documentation set). This chapter covers the basics of Universe File Dictionaries, with particular focus on writing I-descriptors.
The good news is that once you understand the structure of I-descriptors, I think they are easier to write than F-correlatives. Good luck with your conversion! Stephanie |
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PSchellenbach
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Hi j -
I'm not sure why F-correlatives are not working on your Universe system. They are supported by FTD and FTWIZ. I just tested the following F-correlative using both FTD and FTWIZ:
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jthompson333
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The whole scene is a bit strange. Consider these examples.
Exhibit A >AE DICT PUTAWAY RLOG Top of "RLOG" in "DICT PUTAWAY", 10 lines, 74 characters. *--: P 001: A *bpi.convert.dict.ult.to.uv(18:47:04 18 MAR 2008%) 002: 0 003: 004: 005: 006: 007: 008: F;0;(G0*1) 009: R 010: 6 Exhibit A does not work with FTWIZ. Exhibit B >AE DICT PUTAWAY RLOG2 Top of "RLOG2" in "DICT PUTAWAY", 10 lines, 17 characters. *--: P 001: A 002: 0 003: 004: 005: 006: 007: 008: G0*1 009: R 010: 6 Exhibit B works with FTWIZ. Exhibit C >AE DICT PUTAWAY LINE Top of "LINE" in "DICT PUTAWAY", 10 lines, 91 characters. *--: P 001: A *bpi.convert.dict.ult.to.uv(18:47:04 18 MAR 2008%) 002: 0 003: 004: 005: 006: 007: 008: F;0;(G1*2);(TPRODUCT;X;4;4) 009: L 010: 3 Exhibit C does not work with FTWIZ. Exhibit D >AE DICT PUTAWAY LINE2 Top of "LINE2" in "DICT PUTAWAY", 10 lines, 31 characters. *--: P 001: A 002: 0 003: 004: 005: 006: 007: TPRODUCT;X;4;4 008: G1*2 009: L 010: 3 Exhibit D works with FTWIZ. On a side note. If I do the following in Universe, I get some strange behavior. LIST PUTAWAY RLOG SELECT PUTAWAY RLOG SAMPLE 1000 SAVE-LIST JOHN EDIT-LIST JOHN LIST PUTAWAY RLOG 02:25:33pm 09 Jan 2009 PAGE 1 PUTAWAY... RLOG.. 23279*2911 23279 25*90 23738*3803 23738 76*90 22751*4812 22751 54*90 23238*1492 23238 95*90 25266*1510 25266 *90 25423*3745 25423 60*90 26052*1751 26052 11*90 26656*3514 26656 56*90 26798*4919 26798 84*90 26923*5019 26923 30*90 (They keys above are wrapping around) >EDIT-LIST JOHN 1000 lines long. ----: P 0001: 23279*291125*90 0 0002: 23738*380376*90 0 0003: 22751*481254*90 0 0004: 23238*149295*90 0 0005: 25266*1510*90 0 0006: 25423*374560*90 0 0007: 26052*175111*90 0 0008: 26656*351456*90 0 0009: 26798*491984*90 0 So this list above did not build properly at all. However some F correlatives seem to pop in lists properly. LIST PUTAWAY LINE SELECT PUTAWAY LINE SAMPLE 1000 SAVE-LIST JOHN EDIT-LIST JOHN LIST PUTAWAY LINE 02:28:11pm 09 Jan 2009 PAGE 1 PUTAWAY... LINE 23279*2911 DCC 25*90 23738*3803 DCC 76*90 22751*4812 DCC 54*90 23238*1492 WIX 95*90 25266*1510 ACC *90 25423*3745 DCC 60*90 26052*1751 MOT 11*90 26656*3514 DCC 56*90 26798*4919 ACC 84*90 26923*5019 DCC 30*90 >EDIT-LIST JOHN 1000 lines long. ----: P 0001: DCC 0002: DCC 0003: DCC 0004: WIX 0005: ACC 0006: DCC 0007: MOT 0008: DCC So the second building list scenario work with the F correlative LINE. The F correlative RLOG doesn't build a list properly at all. Go figure... |
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bneylon
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Do you belong to the U2 users list? They may be able to help.
http://listserver.u2ug.org/ Bruce |
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PSchellenbach
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Hi j -
I typed your RLOG dictionary item into my Universe test system and was able to use FTWIZ and FTD without any problem. Not sure why your lists are not building correctly. You might need to contact someone at U2 support. Also, please double-check that your FTBP programs are configured for Universe: ED ACCUTERMCTRL KMTCFG and look at line 51. It should be UV_AIX. Thanks, Pete |
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jthompson333
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Strange... I am running Universe 10.2.7.
>ED ACCUTERMCTRL KMTCFG 51 lines long. ----: 51 0051: UV_AIX Bottom at line 51. ----: EX Not sure if I ever signed up for the users group. I'll check that out. Thanks. I'll complain to the vendor and see what happens. Its probably quicker for me to convert a dozen or so DICT items and be done with it. It doesn't seem to be a major problem with all F correlatives from the PICK system- especially if it works for you guys- so I think I'll just convert the ones that don't work, and move on for times sake. Thanks for the help. |
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jthompson333
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Ok I've realized that there are quite a few more DICT items floating around touched by FTWIZ. I am thinking that since the vast majority of these work with the query processor on Universe, that I need to re install the Accuterm host programs.
I am afraid that we have some pointers, and old source code that has been brought over from our Ultimate machine. For example there were 3 ACCUTERMCTRL files floating around. SO, how can I delete any accuterm control files, source code, etc. and start from scratch? The other question that I have is, all of our Universe accounts are PICK flavored. Is this a problem for Accuterm's Host programs? And lastly, should I create an ACCUTERM account like the docs suggest? Should it be PICK flavored, or some other flavor? |
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PSchellenbach
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Hi j -
I'm not sure how to clean out your machine. Universe has several catalog styles, so you should check all of them for old FT programs. If you only had the main programs (FTBP) installed you can ignore other libraries (GUIBP, OBJBP, SUIBP). You might be able to use the current version of FTBP to create a select list that you can edit to match the catalog ID's to make searching easier. I highly recommend creating an ACCUTERM account and installing all of the AccuTerm programs and sample files in that account. FTSETUP from the ACCUTERM account will copy Q-pointers for FTBP, GUIBP, etc. to the target account, as well as correct VOC items for the catalogged programs. AccuTerm host programs should work in all Universe account flavors, except perhaps, PI/Open and IN2. Since the rest of your accounts are Pick flavor, create the ACCUTERM account as Pick flavor too. No account other than ACCUTERM should have real "F" pointers to the FTBP or ACCUTERMCTRL files - they should be Q pointers that point to the ACCUTERM account. Thanks, Pete |
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jthompson333
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Pete,
I meant to post what we stumbled upon to fix it. I just haven't gotten around to that yet, but, I will. I deleted the ACCUTERM account, deleted all rogue ACCUTERMCTRL files. Then I re-created an ACCUTERM account as a PICK flavor account. I followed the install docs, and I did not get any errors. I used UV_AIX install script. I ran FTSETUP from the ACCUTERM account and told it to setup the Account BEN. I answered All, as it said there were old entries in the BEN account (probably from an Ultimate restore). I then went to the BEN account and tried to open up WED, but, received some errors indicating that certain verbs didn't exist or weren't cataloged (unfortunately I did not copy and paste which verbs/programs they were) I made sure that FTBP and ACCUTERMCTRL were Q pointers to the ACCUTERM account. So I did CATALOG FTBP * in the BEN account. WED then fired up. FTWIZ still had trouble. I ran FTD, and it gave me a message indicating that the Host programs were not configured properly and that I needed to run FTBP FTCHK. It said I would not have to recompile. I ran FTBP FTCHK, answered FTBP for the filename, answered UV_AIX for the host type, and told it not compile anything. After that I ran FTWIZ and it worked on all dictionaries. So I guess the moral of the story is, I must have had some old control or config entries in the BEN account that related to HP-UX/Ultimate. FTBP FTCHK fixed the problem. |
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